Comments on: Karate vs. Kung Fu http://www.wimsblog.com/2009/11/karate-vs-kung-fu/ Wim Demeere's thoughts on Martial Arts and Self Defense Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:06:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Wim http://www.wimsblog.com/2009/11/karate-vs-kung-fu/comment-page-1/#comment-564 Wim Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:51:04 +0000 http://www.wimsblog.com/?p=1188#comment-564 Things sure changed Phil. If you do even a fraction of what was normal twenty years ago, you go to jail. That said, there are some serious potential injuries when you spar that way. I didn't mind as much when I was younger. But nowadays, when something breaks, it takes longer to heal and can cause even more long term damage. Also, I don't need to have my nose broke once again to know what it feels like. I still remember well enough from the previous times... :-) Things sure changed Phil. If you do even a fraction of what was normal twenty years ago, you go to jail.
That said, there are some serious potential injuries when you spar that way. I didn’t mind as much when I was younger. But nowadays, when something breaks, it takes longer to heal and can cause even more long term damage. Also, I don’t need to have my nose broke once again to know what it feels like. I still remember well enough from the previous times… :-)

]]> By: Phil http://www.wimsblog.com/2009/11/karate-vs-kung-fu/comment-page-1/#comment-560 Phil Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:03:11 +0000 http://www.wimsblog.com/?p=1188#comment-560 To me it was obvious that the gungfu stylests where not good fighters infact they looked like beginners despite the red sash on one ?. And the karateka was a very good black belt . And trying to use upright monkey techniques was not only showing a lack of skill, power & speed . But unfortunately he showed what gungfu should be in a really bad light . So again it's not the style but the man. I had a very similar thing happin to me early in my training. I had only been training Jook lum S.P.M. mixed with some Jeet kune do for about five months .And had never fought anyone but my fellow students and sifu. My sifu took about six of his students ,Or should i say human punching bags .To chinatown in N.Y. to experiance fighting with other styles . And he put me against a very big powerful shotokan brown belt . Of course i had never seen this style intill that day and was very young 17, and scared . No gloves ,no padding and full contact .This was around 1977. Things where different then .HARDCORE. To me it was obvious that the gungfu stylests where not good fighters infact they looked like beginners despite the red sash on one ?. And the karateka was a very good black belt . And trying to use upright monkey techniques was not only showing a lack of skill, power & speed . But unfortunately he showed what gungfu should be in a really bad light . So again it’s not the style but the man.
I had a very similar thing happin to me early in my training.
I had only been training Jook lum S.P.M. mixed with some Jeet kune do for about five months .And had never fought anyone but my fellow students and sifu. My sifu took about six of his students ,Or should i say human punching bags .To chinatown in N.Y. to experiance fighting with other styles . And he put me against a very big powerful shotokan brown belt . Of course i had never seen this style intill that day and was very young 17, and scared . No gloves ,no padding and full contact .This was around 1977. Things where different then .HARDCORE.

]]> By: Wim http://www.wimsblog.com/2009/11/karate-vs-kung-fu/comment-page-1/#comment-552 Wim Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:46:01 +0000 http://www.wimsblog.com/?p=1188#comment-552 I'll see if I can whip somethign together Carolynn. No idea when as things are crazy right now. But I'll get back to you on it. I’ll see if I can whip somethign together Carolynn. No idea when as things are crazy right now. But I’ll get back to you on it.

]]> By: Carolynn Koloto http://www.wimsblog.com/2009/11/karate-vs-kung-fu/comment-page-1/#comment-551 Carolynn Koloto Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:49:46 +0000 http://www.wimsblog.com/?p=1188#comment-551 Wim I'd say your right again after thinking about it but for me I loved to fight and enter comps all the time for the first 12 years or so but since then I find that the art to me is in avoiding all that. Let me give an example where this applies. Say you learn your art to deafened your self and for your health so you spend the first few years fighting and getting hurt and damaging your body with bent fingures and torn muscles so that you wont get attacked in a fight and get hurt by your attacker. GO Figure. :-). I would like you to write about your journey and lessons you have learned with Tai Chi. Wim I’d say your right again after thinking about it but for me I loved to fight and enter comps all the time for the first 12 years or so but since then I find that the art to me is in avoiding all that. Let me give an example where this applies. Say you learn your art to deafened your self and for your health so you spend the first few years fighting and getting hurt and damaging your body with bent fingures and torn muscles so that you wont get attacked in a fight and get hurt by your attacker. GO Figure. :-) . I would like you to write about your journey and lessons you have learned with Tai Chi.

]]> By: Wim http://www.wimsblog.com/2009/11/karate-vs-kung-fu/comment-page-1/#comment-549 Wim Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:39:01 +0000 http://www.wimsblog.com/?p=1188#comment-549 Carolynn: I understand what you mean about masters not entering the ring but can only agree up to a point. It'll probably depend on what your definition of "master" is so we might be talking about different things. That said, some of the most famous tai chi masters of the past were fighters to the bone. They took on all comers and didn't shy away from challenges, public or otherwise. Also, stepping into the ring doesn't necessarily need to be about proving the superiority of a style. Some people just like to fight and mastery of their style doesn't change that. I know of several such teachers, who are at the top of their style, well past their middle years and still love to fight. They have an immensely strong warrior spirit that doesn't lessen with age. Other masters seem to be the opposite: you hardly see them do anything and they only act decisively when backed into the proverbial corner. I wouldn't say the one has a better or worse spirit than the other. I'll see for the article. Depends on what topic you'd like me to write. Carolynn: I understand what you mean about masters not entering the ring but can only agree up to a point. It’ll probably depend on what your definition of “master” is so we might be talking about different things. That said, some of the most famous tai chi masters of the past were fighters to the bone. They took on all comers and didn’t shy away from challenges, public or otherwise.
Also, stepping into the ring doesn’t necessarily need to be about proving the superiority of a style. Some people just like to fight and mastery of their style doesn’t change that. I know of several such teachers, who are at the top of their style, well past their middle years and still love to fight. They have an immensely strong warrior spirit that doesn’t lessen with age. Other masters seem to be the opposite: you hardly see them do anything and they only act decisively when backed into the proverbial corner. I wouldn’t say the one has a better or worse spirit than the other.

I’ll see for the article. Depends on what topic you’d like me to write.

]]> By: Wim http://www.wimsblog.com/2009/11/karate-vs-kung-fu/comment-page-1/#comment-548 Wim Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:28:01 +0000 http://www.wimsblog.com/?p=1188#comment-548 Dave: Proof! Ultimate proof! :-) Dave: Proof! Ultimate proof! :-)

]]> By: Carolynn Koloto http://www.wimsblog.com/2009/11/karate-vs-kung-fu/comment-page-1/#comment-546 Carolynn Koloto Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:48:40 +0000 http://www.wimsblog.com/?p=1188#comment-546 Wim I do agree, there are times when bullets are not evolved. In this case fighting arts do come into there own. Back to the point at hand styles fighting other style, Which is better karate or Kung Fu? the problem is this anyone who truly is a master in ether art would not step in a ring to prove which is better as this in it's self would prove there art inferior in spirit, what do you think. As for a plug heres my new site http://www.tao-of-tai-chi.com Wim I would love for you to write me and article how about it. Wim I do agree, there are times when bullets are not evolved. In this case fighting arts do come into there own. Back to the point at hand styles fighting other style, Which is better karate or Kung Fu? the problem is this anyone who truly is a master in ether art would not step in a ring to prove which is better as this in it’s self would prove there art inferior in spirit, what do you think. As for a plug heres my new site http://www.tao-of-tai-chi.com Wim I would love for you to write me and article how about it.

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